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Avoiding Satan is NOT the same as following Messiah. Just a thought. If the weaker man in faith (the one who thinks meat is bad) is offended because you eat meat, then in his presence dont eat meat. LOOK AROUND AT OUR NATION we are NOT following them and see whats happening before our very eyes .

It is hard for me not to begin exploring when I see that the only scripture NT writers had to reference was the OT. Change), You are commenting using your Facebook account. Thats it Test Everything. Lastly, the book of Acts (written most likely by Luke, of the Gospel of Luke) declares from Jesus lips: And not only that, if we were to believe that Christmas rose on the first day of the week, (not Monday, but Sunday) then that ultimately proves that Saturday is the Sabbath. 55 and 61new covenant. Thank you for your encouragement! The Catholic Church martyred those who disagreed with their doctrine. For the Christians of the 1st century, there was only one way to interpret the Scriptures, the Hebrew way. After seeing families being thrown into crisis by the Hebrew Roots movement and consequently 119 Ministries, I began doing some research on my own. I would be very interested in your (or anyone elses) logical, page by page rebuttal of Rabbi Singers book. So there are many more examples but you get the point that Gods law/torah/instruction has been present from the beginning to the end of time & continues into eternity. In fact, the Greek word Pleroo (or a derivative of its root word pleres full; to be full) is found over 80 times in the New Testament. I could physically make my children follow my rules, but instead I would rather that follow my rules because they respect and love me. Studying the law of Moses is edifying in understanding Gods law and His will for His people / church.

But we cannot not now have idols, or murder, or take our neighbors wife, or any of the other Ten,..CAN we? ( prior to The Hebrew months did not have names) is or isnt the incorrect one only that I have my doubts. Are you saying works are pointless? Experience based on contextual understanding of scripture is a powerful antidote to doubt and COMPLETLY TRUMPS anything you think you know in your mind.. Its true Now many confuse the scriptures saying our righteousness is as of filthy rags and that we are made righteous by Him, so we are under no obligation to obey the sabbath, feasts, etc. We are free from the hard hats and construction gear because all of that pointed to the building in which the owner took on to maintain and manage. Notice that Peter did NOT say I now realize how true it is that God has now abolished his own laws for his people and we may now eat the flesh of any animal, including the pig that the pagans regularly offer to their false gods.. If the Hebrew Roots Movement has a human origin, then it will collapse. Im almost a senior. Are people just SKIMMING NT Scripture or really reading it? Some say its lawful to do ABC and some say its not a law, but a tradition.

Stay in the Word and pray. If the Law is done away, we have no commandments. Thats not to say that I always agree with every single thing they teach. He teaches in multiple places that wives are to submit to their husbands. There is no scripture stating the sabbath & the feasts have been done away with but many pastors teach this very same thing. So why then, would 119 Ministries be deceiving people, if theyre trying to help people follow the Bible better? the tenant given to buffet our flesh until the Seed came)? ADONAI will judge his people.[i] And therefore the Great Commission also says to follow the Torah. Like David Wilber, a contributor for 119 Ministries, the ministry has recently taken a public stance that Yeshua was in submission to the Church when He went to the stake/cross. beginning. If Christians are set apart, they sure are not convincing the masses. The reason why there is so much discussion and disagreement on this blog is because Jesus is not the Messiah and the New Testament is not the inerrant word of God. It like Tiberian Hebrew are forms of this ancient language family with vowel pointing.

Love your neighbor and in doing so you fulfill all the law! He is a Jewish man not a pagan diety. In this passage, Paul is saying there is Law and there is faith: of which are you?

May the Father by his Holy Spirit reveal the complete Truth to you. I apologize Leah, if thats not your stance on the topic. I believe myself to be led by the Holy Spirit and believe Jesus to be the only way to Salvation and to know the father. Amen!. They do not.

Jesus said much more to his disciples.

Do yourselves a favor and stop being lazy believers, wanting everything handed to you on a silver platter. 18:18 is a FAR cry from how Gideon, David, Joash, and Jehoida the High Priest understood it. Youre welcome to use any of this material to help your friend. I was attempting to communicate that Isaiah 11:10 is true.

They refuse to Act on the words/ instructions of shepherd Jesus.

and I dont really care about material things. It is sad to see sites or blogs dedicated to tearing down fellow Believers in Jesus just because they understand doctrinal things differentally. Are they into high paying careers college loans to pay back some how ..large houses with Thank You Jesus signs in the yard . If you claim the law/torah/Gods instructions have been done away with then you must throw out the book of revelation and many other passages that make up the NT. I just cant find a better instructor that the Author. Well, it appears that you dont have an excuse to be so ignorant then. This is all youre getting from me. Are you choosing to follow the law given to Moses by God for the Israelites to follow as they entered the Promised Land and became a sovereign nation unto the Lord? This cup which is poured out for you IS the new covenant IN MY BLOOD. ( Luke 22:20) Hebrews and 2 Cor. Matthew 7:21-23New King James Version (NKJV), I Never Knew You Then Jesus goes into a diatribe of exposing the surface understanding of the Torah (instructions in righteousness). Thank Rome for that. Leah, stay strong! It is a fact that the bible was originally written in Hebrew and since then been translated by many different tongues. There are also verb-tense errors in some of the English Bible translations. If left strictly to ourselves we do what we want to do. You will actually see the Torah come alive. Christ is ruling and reigning now seated at the right hand of the Father.. and we are there legally with him now.. also ruling as kings and priests. 5 So then, does He who provides you with the Spirit and works miracles among you, do it by the works of the Law, or by hearing with faith? Gal 3:2-5.

Remember, the Spirit of God (Ruach Elohim) moved upon the face of the waters (KJV). You need both parts to understand what law hes referring to when. Yet Satan tried to replicate his own version of the trinity, as seen in the book of Revelation, through the Dragon, the Beast, and the False Prophet. The Brit Hadashah (New Covenant or New Testament Scriptures) hadnt even been codified until long after the apostles death. There is no more temple Did you know Shaul (Paul) spent his own money when travelling? But to go around, as 119 & HR does saying, if you love God, you will keep his feasts and obey the Torah is simply putting on all believers something that is simply not there. This sort of thing happens when people who may know what individual words in another language mean BUT do not know or understand the idiomatic expressions of the culture they are translatingn words about and instead they ended up using word-for-word text translation instead of translating the MEANING of the idiomatic expression. No doubt, many of you who read this will attack me as a Judaizer, not even know what the word actually means.

I pulled my family out of the church. (LogOut/ Do you defend 119 Ministries teaching entitled Dont be Under the Law to be truth? Again > Romans 11 explains that. John Campbell, I have read your postings and I only come up with questions What do you mean when you say Jesus Fulfilled Torah? What they do teach is something that you simply do not want to hear. It paints a clear picture of what Christ did. Use discount code FX5KDVSC on orders of 6 or more to save $2.50 each. for you all who disbelieve the ministries that are out there doing the will of the Lord and not the will of man. Torah was passed on orally. Because right after that, in the very next verse, Jesus says, 20 For I say to you that unless your righteousness surpasses that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will not enter the kingdom of heaven. WHO died for you? 3 For the time is coming when people will not endure sound teaching, but having itching ears they will accumulate for themselves teachers to suit their own passions, 4 and will turn away from listening to the truth and wander off into myths.

Because He came down HARD on David when that great king committed adultery with Bath-Sheba and had Uriah murdered.

The fruit taste delicious.!!! Christians need to really read what Christ tells us, Do not think I have come to ABOLISH the Law or the Prophets; I have NOT come to abolish them but to FULFILL them. As for me and my house, we will follow the Lord as Christians! What scholars are interested in is what PAUL meant by the term in the context of the passage itself and how his original readers would have understood the term. The prophets, in effect, taught: New covenant, same law.. WebThere he served as Bishop Jamisons adjutant and later accepted the call of God on his life. Learn what work and callouses are all about. Are in Jesus Christ Himself, for of HIS FULNESS I have received; GRACE UPON GRACE!!! IF you can separate yourself from a denominational dogma long enough to realize this is about A person separating THEMSELF (holiness) for a purpose.

You might want to check out this free book thats been around since the 90s.. Who am I to pick and choose what applies to me? I will say this , Paul in his letter to the galatians knew very well where the attempt of reaching perfection through the keeping of the mosaic law would lead to the killing of the spirit ..to the keeping of the outward at the cost of the inward I have seen it written by a founder of the movement ( Hebrew Roots) that sacrifices are not done because there is no temple in Jerusalem and no priest and this because of mans disobedience ..this is not true. Jesus Christ (Yashua, his Hebrew Name) and Yahweh are looking for a people, his elect, his saints, his bride to be that will Love him through keeping his commandments, statutes and charge. One must trudge through the entire teaching to see several points of deception. Truly Question-Test everything! Will return tomorrow or the next day. salvation is the grace part of the gospel, obedience to his word is the relation part of the gospel. I have heard even further disturbing material that I think characterises the heart of this movement and people (yes, a cult). I have a nephew wrapped up with "Psalm 119 Ministries," which is a cult, following the Torah and observing the Sabbath on Saturday and "obeying" other practices and commands of Moses. For shame! Despite the fact he only said it once, doesnt make it any less valid. I have never heard them say you must follow the Law to be saved.

They contain some things that are hard to understand, things which the uninstructed and unstable distort, to their own destruction, as they do the other Scriptures. In other words, you have been saved (begun) by the Spirit, how can you think your sanctification will happen by the flesh (i.e. Language is not only vocabulary and grammar rules, its also the culture, the traditions, and the mindset of the people who speak it. That was an eye opener for us. Change).

The hardcopies, that I purchased new, date to the previous century. Please let us ALL remember we are united through trusting faith in Messiah Jesus (thanks be to YHWH for that Gift) and unity to me does not require uniformity. News Flash, Leah, the Greeks and the Romans worshiped false gods (Satan, his fallen angels, and demons). One of the most misunderstood ideas about the Hebrew Roots movement is the lack of love. When Christ who is your life appears, then you also will appear with him in glory.

I appreciate this page, as I have debated these guys for years. How do you know if you may be caught up in error ? I think the problem we have here is that 119 fails to understand Fulfillment vs Abolishment.

Those that condemn Hebrew Roots are yall as concerned about the Emergent church that is incorporating pagan and occultic practices (labyrinths, etc) into their worship of God (who said to never use pagan ways to worship Him) as you are about people trying to please God by sticking to Scripture only?

(Sorry, Im sure you know this profoundly.)

You never know whats gonna happen! Because no ministry or blog author will be standing with you on judgment day. I take that to mean that we are yoked to eternity ..to life . Loving God: 1 John 5:3 defines loving God as keeping His commandments. -Matthew 5:48. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Its only what they logically deduce from Scripture. Because they all observed the feasts , dietary laws, sabbath, and the whole torah. Both had to add to or take away from scripture & we know that is not good. We are told to FOLLOW HIM! I bet you believe the laws are not for us either??? Psalm 136:26 ? Is it a deep-down fear of being perceived as Jewish because a person keeps the Holy Days that God ordained rather than the ones Rome ordained? Paul hard to understand? Glad youre doing this. 2 I spread out my hands all day long to a rebellious people who live in a way that is not good, who follow their own inclinations; 3 a people who provoke me to my face all the time, sacrificing in gardens and burning incense on bricks. All the nations will come to the mountain of the Lord. I am so thankful for 119 Ministries. Servethe Body of the Messiah by offering free, testable, easily sharable, quality teachings for you and your house. In Matthew 15:7-9, Jesus quotes Isaiah 29:13, These people honor me with their lips, but their heart is far from me; in vain do they worship me, teaching as doctrines the commandments of men. I choose to follow Messiahs instructions as recorded in scripture and not what others assume Messiah taught. 31 The days are coming, declares the Lord, when I will make a new covenant Ive seen so many changes in the last 3 decades in Christendom. For more on what we believe, please see this. The Epistles themselves are a proof of the Judaism of the Church. He NEVER teaches husbands to submit to their wives, though he is clear, love your wife as Messiah loved the ekklesia. Paul, further, teaches that elders and ekklesia leaders are to be men (husbands) and that women are not to teach or even speak in the assembly. It smells human and not at all of the same scent of Jesus in the gospels. He backed Him up.. Peter ever stated that the letters of Paul were hard to understand and that many unlearned will twist it to their own destruction. It was the Roman Catholic Church that changed His 7th day Sabbath and did away with His Feast days! Real breath of fresh air. Each one of you needs to begin by reading the Sermon on the Mount and trying to live according to what Jesus commanded there. We are all defending what we believe to be truth *as we understand it* and to suggest that any one person or entity has it 110% correct is fallacy. Again, what could be better than family, feasting, fun, Yahweh, Scripture, peace, rest, worship, fellowshipall wrapped up in knowing we are loving our Father and our neighbor the way He commanded us, not mens traditions!? If you want to start quoting (or misquoting Paul) then I have to ask -are you following Christ or following what you THINK Paul meant?